Our civil and human rights have been taken from us
Description of Harassment by the Orange County Sheriff
and District Attorney Offices
Genelle and Jack Reilley
Laguna Beach, CA 92651
ROBBIN AND HER BROTHER JAYESON
We are the parents of Robbin (Reilley) Brandley. Robbin was murdered in 1986 at Saddleback Community College in Mission Viejo, CA. She was murdered by confessed serial killer Andrew Urdiales and a student suspect and an instructor who have not been properly investigated or charged.
We believe that for over two decades there has been a cover-up of Robbin’s murder by the Orange County law enforcement that started immediately after Robbin’s death. The purpose: to preserve, keep free of scandal, the 1980s reputations of Orange County in general and Saddleback Community College in particular. The key decision to make Robbin’s murder a cold case required a law enforcement cover-up of facts. This cover-up resulted in seven more murders of young women in California and Illinois by Urdiales.
In November 2011, Urdiales was finally extradited to Orange County, CA, 26+ years after Robbin’s murder and 15+ years after Urdiales’ confession. The state of Illinois ended capital punishment thus ending all death sentence appeals in that state. This action deprived Orange County of its key tactic of keeping Urdiales tied up in Illinois courts for years, thus avoiding extradition, a trial and the unraveling of the cover-up.
Why Does Law Enforcement Harass Us?
Because we challenge the cover-up of Robbin’s murder, and, we said that maybe we could get the truth revealed if we went to the media – print, television, internet, networking – to all sources available. Immediately after our declaration we noticed tapping of our phone, the beginning of the harassment.
The harassment attack on us began in earnest when the cover-up and lies imploded after the unexpected confession of Andrew Urdiales in 1997. The confession raised multiple questions and contradictions that have never been answered by law enforcement. We finally had it with the DA and threatened to expose the cover-up: we demand answers, not lies and misstatements about the investigation, the suspects, the contradictory evidence, the purposeful delay in extraditing Urdiales to California.
We will fight to defend and protect our reputations and safety. We will fight for justice for Robbin and the four other young California women murdered by Urdiales. We refuse to live any longer quietly suffering attacks and accusations against us, directly or indirectly, by the Orange County Sheriff and District Attorney Offices. The Sheriff at the time the harassment began was Mike Carona, now serving a 5 ½ year federal prison term. Carona was appointed a Senior Advisor to Homeland Security and had access to the latest & greatest harassment and surveillance equipment and techniques. Under the Patriot Act, the thug Sheriff Carona had almost unlimited digression and power, and a willing cadre of Sheriff officials, to go after anyone who threatened, even questioned, his position and authority.
It is not enough for the Sheriff and District Attorney offices that our hearts ache every day over our precious daughter’s vicious, senseless murder. To add injury, law enforcement began harassing us in order to frighten us into submission and to accept their fictional story of Robbin’s murder versus the true facts: a student and instructor arranged the murder and enlisted Urdiales to help them. The student is the only person with a motive (recurring loss of a $10,000 fee), the means and opportunity to murder, plus, a deep hatred of Robbinn.
When Did The Harassment Begin?
In December 2003 Senior Assistant DA Howard Gundy called our home to tell us that DA Tony Rackauckas would not be attending an annual Justice for Homicide Victims award ceremony for outstanding prosecutors. Genelle asked Gundy if he was the prosecutor on Robbin’s murder. Gundy replied that the Orange County DA was not prosecuting Urdiales for Robbin’s murder. Genelle asked Gundy, “What did you say?” Gundy repeated his statement. Thinking Gundy may be confused about which murder he was talking about, Genelle said, “You are not trying Urdiales for Robbin’s murder?” “No,” he replied, “the physical evidence at the scene of the crime is not his. (To this day, Gundy has not said whose physical evidence is at the scene.) He will be tried by the San Diego DA for his four other murders in California.” (This was later confirmed to Jack by a SDDA spokesperson.) Genelle still could not believe what she was hearing; she thought that the OCDA simply did not want to spend the money for a multiple murder prosecution. She asked if Urdiales could be included in the San Diego prosecution. Gundy replied, “I’ll get back to you.” Jack asked if the detailed confession of Robbin’s murder was not enough to prosecute Urdiales. Gundy replied that a confession was not enough without physical evidence and that they had evidence on the four other murders. Gundy never got back.
Not long after Gundy’s statement to us, a lady working in the office of an Illinois State’s Attorney office phoned to ask if one or both of us would testify during the penalty phase of Urdiales’ trial for a third murder in downstate Illinois. Genelle replied, “Absolutely not, Urdiales is not being tried in Orange County for Robbin’s murder; maybe he did not commit the murder!” The lady said she was going to call the Orange County DA to find out what was going on. Genelle told her, “Maybe I can get the truth if I go to the media!”
After this conversation, we began to notice evidence of overt harassment, starting with tapped phones and home break-in.
What Do We Want?
WE WANT THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY’S OFFICE TO ARRANGE APPOINTMENTS WITH UNBIASED DOCTORS, AT OUR EXPENSE, WHO WILL THOROUGHLY EXAMINE AND SCAN GENELLE FOR ALL BIO-IMPLANTS; WE WANT PROOF OF THE SAFE REMOVAL OF ALL THE BIO-IMPLANTS; WE WANT THE HARASSMENT TO STOP; WE WANT THE COVER-UP OF ROBBIN’S MURDER TO STOP; WE WANT A FULL PUBLIC EXPOSURE OF THE COVER-UP AND HARASSMENT; WE WANT JUSTICE FOR ROBBIN AND THE FOUR OTHER YOUNG, CALIFORNIA WOMEN; WE WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO IT’S JOB!
We are serious people. After Robbin’s murder we initiated a campus lighting bill to set lighting standards at California University, state college and community college campuses. It was passed and signed into law. We worked on two campus crime reporting bills – Security On Campus - that were also passed and signed into law. California campuses are safer because of action we took after Robbin’s murder.
We are advisory board members of Security On Campus, a national campus crime education and prevention organization and past board members of Justice for Homicide Victims.
We are former board members of victim rights’ organizations. We have worked for passage of victim rights and criminal justice issues since the late 1980s, the latest effort being Marsy’s Law – Prop 9. We have testified many times before the California legislature on campus crime issues.
We are not frustrated parents of a murdered child making up wild accusations. We come to the cover-up conclusion as the logical explanation for the series of actions, and non-actions, of law enforcement, their repeated lies and their hostility-resistance in investigating and prosecuting Robbin’s murder. From the very beginning, law enforcement had an unusual antipathy toward the murder and toward us; they resisted our inquiries about the progress of the investigation and the prosecution. We are parents anxious to learn the truth of our daughter’s murder including the facts of the murder, the suspects, the investigation, the evidence and the prosecution.
It has been 26+ years since Robbin’s death. It has been 15+ years since one of her murderers, Andrew Urdiales, confessed. We estimate from State and local law enforcement officials actions that final justice for Robbin and four other California women will not be completed, if ever, until 2038, fifty-two years after Robbin’s murder and forty-one years after Urdiales’ confession. This is not justice, this is law enforcement malpractice.
All through this process we have been upfront with Sheriff and District Attorney personnel, explaining all our concerns in detail. We are patronized and never given any response, argument, explanation, excuse or follow-up --- and, of course, never given the truth.
We gave a document outlining Robbin’s murder and the cover-up to the new Sheriff, Sandra Hutches, in October, 2008, in the presence of Captain Christine Murray. She said she would review it and call us in for a meeting. We never heard from her again.
Descriptions of harassment: The harassment includes, but is not limited to: misdirected 911 calls; dental X-rays; blue beams inside the house; attacks on personal health; tapping of phones and computers; illegally entering home; mail monitored; travel; private investigators; purchase surveillance; tracking our movements; appointments; neighbor cooperation; entrapment; safe deposit box; aerial surveillance; collecting DNA.
Items 1,2,3 are updates to harassment
1. Misdirected 911 call
On March 3, 2011 Genelle was home alone while Jack was at a local hospital giving a blood sample. Genelle had not stayed alone for several years because of the harassment home break-ins. About 9:15 AM she heard a car door slam and she thought Jack had returned. She looked out a bedroom window and saw a white SUV parked in the driveway. She saw an unknown woman standing beside the driveway in the vacant lot next to our house. The woman was talking to someone Genelle could not see who was under the balcony off the bedroom. The unseen person was by the garage door. Genelle then heard the garage door raise, hesitate, then close.
Genelle was terrified of a home invasion and immediately called 911. The operator came on and asked, “What is your emergency?” As Genelle began to explain, the operator asked, “are you at Pendleton?” Genelle responded, “No! I am in Laguna Beach.” The operator said, “Well, this is Camp Pendleton and I don’t have Laguna’s number.” Genelle hung up. She called Jack who was leaving the hospital for home.
(Note: Camp Pendleton is approximately 40 miles south of Laguna Beach in San Diego county. Robbin’s murderer, Urdiales, was stationed there when Robbin was murdered. When Urdiales returned to the Camp after Robbin’s murder, the gate MPs questioned him about the blood on his clothes. Urdiales was not searched; if he had been the bloody murder knife would have been discovered. Urdiales was sent to the infirmary after telling the MPs lies about the reason for the blood. News of the murder was a major national and local story especially in Southern California. We contend that the MPs contacted the OC Sheriff when the murder became known, they are a police organization after all and they know the danger and threat of young men returned from Iraq combat who are trained to kill. To our knowledge, the Sheriff never contacted the Marines, even on an investigative curious hunch. On a subsequent gate stop, the MPs searched Urdiales’ car, reason unknown, and found a knife, confiscated it but claimed it went missing … it was either lost, stolen or purposefully destroyed.)
Genelle grabbed a camera and went outside to take photos. The unknown woman and person under the balcony were gone. Genelle took photos of the car and peered into the car looking for some identification. Genelle saw a faculty parking permit at a local community college. Genelle returned to the house, leaving the garage door and kitchen door open so she could see anyone returning for the SUV.
When Jack returned home, he called the Laguna Beach Police to remove or ticket the SUV. They said that because we did not have a No Parking sign, they could do nothing on private property. Jack called a tow truck company and they said the same, they could not touch the car.
Jack also told the Police that the person who parked the car watched someone attempt to enter the house by raising the garage door. Jack said a burglary or home invasion was attempted. The Police did not appear concerned about the danger nor were they concerned that 911 calls to them are directed to a location 40 miles away.
When the owner of the SUV returned, about seven hours later, she told Genelle that she thought our house was empty, no one living there. This is preposterous since our home is gardened, has trash out on trash days, is in good repair and looks lived in. The lady claimed there was no other place to park; again preposterous, parking is available on the streets and on the vacant lot next to our house. Parking is not a problem; there is no need to park in a stranger’s driveway.
The lady went hysterical when Genelle asked who she was talking to, who raised our garage door. She claimed she was not talking to anyone, but Genelle watched her mouth moving while she was looking at the unseen person…somebody had to raise the door, it required a manual effort, and the door-opener was disconnected. The lady was a neighbor who lived on a different street. She left then returned about an hour later with her husband to pick up the SUV. Neither could give an adequate explanation for the lady’s action nor identify of the unseen person; they could explain the purpose of their actions.
2. Dental X-rays – (see Dental under Attacks on Personal Health below)
In 2006 a tracking device was placed in Genelle’s lower left jaw in Dr. Tozzers office. She has been to at least six dentist’s offices to obtain X-rays to prove this, but to no avail for a variety of reasons: the X-ray machine does not work, the technician did not take the X-rays, the X-rays are blurry; the doctor is not available or will not discuss the X-rays with Genelle.
In April, 2011, Genelle went to Dr. Plocher for a filling replacement and a crown that came off. This crown was situated over the area where the tracking device was implanted. Genelle obtained X-rays which she contends are not of her teeth. Genelle filed a complaint with the Calif. Dental Assn. asserting that unnecessary dental work was performed and that the dentist did not follow the dental code of patient ethics.
She had a dental peer review examination of the work Dr. Plocher did on her teeth. This included a new set of X-rays that clearly showed a fine black wire embedded in the gum.
Genelle specifically asked several times if she would receive copies of the new X-rays along with the CDA review findings. She was definitively told Yes. No X-rays were sent with the findings.
We believe the reason for the stall and avoidance of the X-ray is to hide the implanted device.
3. Blue Beams Inside Our Home
On a late October 2010 afternoon, Genelle sniffed a burning smell. It was not a fireplace or wood smell. She never smelled anything like it before; she had nothing to compare it to.
She started to walk to the kitchen to see if anything was burning. She glanced down the entrance hallway and saw a bright blue beam or ray coming into the house from the outside, through a window panel above the front door. It was not a sunlight distortion. Outside the window panel is a large tree with large thick leaves that covers the front porch area. We have lived in the home for over 29 years and have never had a such a beam or sunlight.
Upon inspection, the beam had small black particles whirling around inside of it. The smell continued.
The beam lasted a short while and reappeared only once. The smell happened four times.
Immediately after the beam, we cannot take clear photos inside the house. The photos are fuzzy and the colors are distorted. A lazer like blue beam appears on the photos.
4. Attacks on Personal Health
We believe that the harassment has gone so far as to interfere with Genelle’s health with the willing cooperation of, or threat of retaliation to, doctors and dentists.
We believe that Genelle has been bio-implanted at least three times with tracking devices: the first in her abdomen during a liposuction procedure; the second in her lower left gum by her dentist and a third behind her ears by her facial surgeon. She suffers continual pain, swelling and discomfort from the dental and facial devices. The purpose of these devices is to track Genelle, to know where she is and if she is making any attempts to contact officials or others for help.
Bio-chip technology is not futuristic technology; it is now an accepted procedure being used in many different ways by law enforcement and by business. A retired Homeland Security man in a televised interview said that “bio-chips put into the body are controlled by satellite, so we know where you are at all times. We can even watch you through your television.”
(See 2. Home Telephone – Computers - Television – Privacy below.)
If we are wrong, prove us wrong.
August 19-20, 2004: Genelle had a relatively simple abdomen liposuction procedure at her doctor’s medical facility. She was kept unconscious for eight hours, 9-5, an unusually long time for an abdomen-only procedure that requires the patient to be unconscious for just 2-3 hours.
An implant was never suspected until 2007 when a bee-bee type item fell out of Genelle’s body and bounced across the bathroom floor. There was no explanation for this strange item. Genelle was becoming knowledgeable and aware of bio-implants and she suspected the bee-bee device was inserted during the liposuction surgery. The bee-bee item was placed in our safe deposit box. It has since been stolen from the box: during the period of January 18-22, 2008, we could not access the box due to a malfunction of the electronic hand identifier; this prevented either of us from entering the safe deposit area. We watched other customers; they were not having a similar problem. Bank personnel had no explanation – “this has never happened before” – and we were denied access for a week. When we finally had access, we discovered the bee-bee item was missing.
Recently we were denied entry on January 24, 2009, same hand identifier problem. We do not know yet if anything was stolen or if the intruders were just rummaging through our papers. Genelle did notice a man who she believes follows us regularly standing near the safe deposit area.
October 2006: The dentist’s office began phoning, asking Genelle to come in for teeth cleaning. It was unusual for his office to phone personally, they always sent postcard notices. On October 31, 2006 during Genelle’s cleaning, the technician painfully jabbed her lower left gum, so painful that Genelle yelled out. The pain persisted after the appointment. Genelle made several attempts for a follow-up appointment, but the dentist was never available.
Finally, on January 25, 2007, Genelle walked into her dentist’s office without an appointment and asked for an X-ray of the gum area and an explanation of the problem. She told the doctor that her gum was persistently painful, not her teeth. The doctor stood behind Genelle, never looking directly at her or face-to-face, and did not examine her mouth. He said she probably had an infection and wrote a prescription. An X-ray was also taken with a new, high-tech machine, but the gum area was avoided, not shown. The prescription was useless, the pain persisted.
On May 9, 2007, Genelle went unannounced to a dental clinic for an examination of the gum. When the receptionist began entering data on the computer, she stopped and stared at Genelle, then made a phone call. About ten minutes later, a lady rushed into the waiting room, signed in and immediately left the reception area for a restroom. Genelle could not see her face and did not see the woman again. The dentist flossed Genelle’s teeth then sat behind her while she explained her pain and the non-response of her regular dentist to examine or fix the problem. Genelle had to turn around in the dentist chair to speak to the doctor, an odd situation, as if he did not want to confront her face to face. There was no examination. The X-ray was blurry and the picture inconclusive, at least as explained to Genelle. There was no examination of the gum area that Genelle complained about.
While Genelle was paying, she glanced at the sign-in book and saw the name of the lady who rushed in, making sure Genelle did not see her face. A few days earlier, Genelle had found a business card at home for a Captain, Investigation Division – Orange County Sheriff. This card was given to Genelle in our home when then-Sheriff Gates, and a cadre of plain clothes men, came to our home to inform us that Urdiales had confessed. We believe the lady and the Captain, who have the same last name, are related, in fact, we believe the lady was called by the receptionist per instructions or a warning she received while processing Genelle’s forms on her computer.
Why did the dentist floss? We believe DNA was being collected from Genelle to intimidate or frame her if that became necessary to keep her quite.
In early 2009, while in our car, Genelle said she needed a dentist. When we got home, a message from her regular dentist’s office was on the answer machine requesting Genelle to make an appointment. We believe Genelle was listened to, spied on, while in the car and the doctor was notified. We believe that the dentist wanted to remove the implant and destroy any proof or evidence. Since 2006, when Genelle lies down with her face on its left side with the gum implant, her mouth-gum area aches, even into her ear causing itching, stinging and burning.
In 2009, Genelle went to a third dentist, who did not show up for the appointment. By phone, he instructed his assistant to take an X-ray. The machine used was old and unstable; it swung back and forth, causing Genelle to call out to the technician standing in the hall. The X-ray is inconclusive and of no help in determining the gum problem or presence of an implant.
January 23 2008: When Genelle was in the doctor’s office being prepped for surgery, a nurse unknown to Genelle began talking about Robbin’s murder, a subject Genelle had never mentioned to any one in the office. Genelle and the nurse were strangers to each other. The nurse’s comments came out of the blue for no apparent reason.
The nurse asked Genelle if she knew she was under investigation (for murder). Genelle was shocked; she responded to the nurse that “these people are so evil.” The nurse replied, “its worse than that if you asked me.” The nurse then had Genelle sign an approval that allowed a UCI doctor, unknown to Genelle, to observe the surgical procedure.
Genelle was taken to a room and sedated. Some time later, her doctor and others came into the room and roused her. Someone stated that her doctor would not be doing the surgery, a different doctor would. Genelle’s doctor was leaving town for several days. Genelle was too sedated or drugged to respond, object, decline the surgery, or leave.
Almost immediately after surgery, Genelle began to have swelling, pain, itching, a round knot and scars behind both ears. The doctor said it would all go away, that Genelle was suffering dermatitis. When he actually looked at Genelle’s ear, he bolted from the examining room, saying that he was sending an assistant to take some photos. The assistant did not take pictures of the affected area, just of Genelle’s face. The assistant complained she could not get the camera to work correctly and did not take photos of the affected areas behind the ears.
Genelle still suffers pain, swelling, itching and has a lump behind the left ear. We believe this is a bio-chip implant. She has given up on getting answers or help from her doctor.
We realize body implants seem unbelievable, but the technology is becoming commonplace. Consider that Sheriff Carona – “America’s Sheriff” – was privy to Homeland Security technology and devices, including personal tracking devices and bio-chips, because he was on a special President’s panel. He had the authority to act broadly as a homeland security agent during his hey-day. In fact, Carona’s office was loaded with spy equipment – taping and camera – unknown to visitors.
We doubt that any law enforcement would treat sex offenders or child molesters who are out of prison to this kind of surveillance or physical intrusion.
If we are wrong about bio-implants, prove us wrong. The bio-implant charges can all be solved in a week by examination, scans or X-rays by reputable doctors who are unafraid of, do not cooperate with, Orange County law enforcement.
5. Home Telephone – Computers - Television - Privacy
…We have not been able to make unmonitored phone calls from home for over five
years. Our private conversations are listened to. We don’t know when phone tapping
actually began; we do know when we first began to notice the clicks, strange noises
and interference in 2004, shortly after we said we will to go to the media.
…Initially during phone conversations there was a 3-4 second silence, then a beep.
Callers ask us, “What was that?” It is not call waiting; we have checked that out and
excluded that explanation.
The silence and beep have changed to an echo sound and we do not get a dial tone for
quite some time
…We get disconnected frequently, followed by a lot of static noise. We hear background
voices before hang-up. Once Genelle’s mother was talking to a friend who heard a
noise like an airplane roar, then there was a disconnect. People were heard talking in
…The phone volume is loud with an echo effect. After this happens our phone does
not get a dial tone right away as normal
…When the party we are talking to hangs up, frequently there is no dial tone for several
…In 2004, we believe a “friend” of Genelle’s phoned specifically to tape the
their conversation. The friend is also a good friend of OC Sheriff Captain Christine
This friend has NEVER asked about Robbin’s case in the past but did so during the
call, and, she mentioned that she thought her phone was tapped. When Genelle asked
why anyone would tap her phone, the friend lamely replied, “Oooooh, I don’t know.”
We believe she was clumsily giving the warning that is required when taping a phone
conversation. We believe Captain Murray wanted to know what we knew or suspected.
…Genelle told Senior Deputy DA Gundy that she thought the Sheriff and DA’s offices
arranged a phone tap because they want to known our contacts and actions we are
He asked when the phone tap started; Genelle said when she threatened to go to the
media. His response was “Uh-Huh.” He did not deny it. When Genelle mentioned that
she suspected Captain Murray was setting up the tap, Gundy became tongue-tied,
nervous and very flustered.
…We complained to COX Cable and asked them to check for tapping of our phones and
computers or any stealing of cable service from our box. The technician examined our
phone wires and outside cable box and became agitated. He yelled, “What’s this mess,”
then looked at Genelle with alarm. He exclaimed, “I am really not a phone man, you
need to get a phone man!” He then packed up and got out as fast as he could.
…When conversations end, before we hang up, we hear noises, sounds, then various
disconnections until the listening party or taping machine finally hangs up.
Lately when talking to an out of state friend, the call was disconnected and the friend
heard a man’s voice distinctly pronounce the time the call ended. This has happened
In August, 2009, after we appeared on local television news programs about breaking
news on Urdiales extradition, we noticed that we received few calls on our land line
home phone from callers other than family and close friends that we talk to frequently.
We believe our calls are screened; any unknown phone numbers are blocked. Upon
returning home one evening, the phone was in the cradle but the green indicator light
said the phone was in use…how could it be in use when the phone was hung up?
…In 2007, we had a top rate security company do a complete audit of our home
including searching for listening devices, phones and computer taps. They said that 7-9 neighbors were accessing our computer while specifically pointing to the house directly across the street. They advised us to not talk in certain rooms.
Some other security people said it would be difficult to check for phone taping because
if law enforcement declared to a judge that a tap and surveillance was necessary, it was
probably sanctioned with a court order…and we have no way to find out.
…While talking to the Los Angeles District Attorney about our harassment, his assistant
agreed that the phone noises and incidents we described were typical of phone tapping.
…Our televisions began acting strangely about four years ago. We are on Cox Cable.
We experience our screens going totally green, with no sound or response to the
remote changer commands. When we call Cox service we get the old, “never heard of
that before” routine, the technicians have never experienced the problem and do not
know how to correct it, or prevent it. They have to reset the cable box, but that is a
short term solution. We believe these televisions – one in the family room, one in the
master bedroom – had a listening or viewing device that interferers with normal
operation. We have had numerous Cox technicians come to the home to analyze the
problem, but to no avail, they are flummoxed.
…Almost daily, starting a few months ago, in the mornings, the bedroom television will
flash, like a camera flash when changing channels. This does not happen in the late
morning, afternoon or evening. Again, no explanation from Cox upon our complaints.
…We began to get calls from strange, quirky numbers or caller IDs, for example:
intermetro SA came up frequently. When we called back, we sometimes got a message
saying, “I’m sorry.” That’s all.
Other times we would get people we know such as Peter Mitchell, a political
consultant for Rackauckas and Carona. When we asked Peter about the intermetro SA
ID name on his calls, he professed no idea of why that would show for him.
Genelle’s brother called and again the intermetro SA ID appeared. Another time,
September 6, 2005, Genelle’s brother called and the ID name was LA DA. When Jack
asked him if he was working for the District Attorney, he became flustered.
In October, 2006, a call came in from Bonsai Bistro, 509-765-4321. Genelle returned
the call immediately and got a “number disconnected” message.
Occasionally we got calls from unknown people across the country. When we call
them back, they are surprised and have no idea why their number would show up on
our caller ID. They had not called us.
We discussed this phenomenon with Cox service people. They had no answer, they
never do. We believe these weird IDs were an attempt to connect a tap to our phone,
or, to show we are trying to connect with unsavory characters when we call numbers
Recently it has become know that federal law enforcement successfully used new technology to implant listening devices in cell and land phones, televisions, radios and other appliances to listen to Mob conversations in homes, offices and cars. It is not improbable to us that Sheriff Carona authorized and used devices to invade our privacy in our home and car. Carona used hidden listening devices in his offices, he knows how to accesses technology.
If we are wrong about the invasion of our privacy, prove us wrong.
6. Illegally Entering Our Home
In September, 2009, a neighbor asked about our home break-ins. She said that she and several neighbors were disturbed by the break-ins, and, that they have observed cars and trucks around our home; they assumed that we were doing some remodeling or other work inside the house, but, they were uncertain if we were home or gone. She and the others thought the car/truck activity was suspicious because it seemed to correspond with some of the break-in incidents. Several months earlier, a different neighbor commented that we always had a lot of service repair men at our home. This was a surprise to us. Of course, we have an occasional repair person, but not a lot and certainly not when we are away from home.
Our first notice of a break-in occurred upon our returning home one afternoon, we found our phone unplugged from the wall socket and lying several feet away from the phone jack. Genelle had been using the phone that morning, it was plugged in and it worked fine. The phone jack is behind a couch and could not fall out of the socket and land about three feet away..
We discovered an attempt to break in our house via the patio doors. We called the Laguna Beach police and they verified the attempt. They took fingerprints and a report.
We lodged a second break-in attempt with the police. They would not visit our home; they only took a report at the station. When we described why attempts were being made to invade our home, and that we suspected law enforcement, Officer McGill became very agitated, mad and argumentative: he said loudly to Genelle, “so, you think they are out to get you?” She replied just as loud, “Yes I do!” He replied, “And you think they are stealing your blood?” Genelle said yes! McGill became especially distressed when we described the nicks and chunks on our professionally painted woodwork. He hung his head down and stared at the report for some time. His report contained several errors which we corrected. The officer, David McGill, was a motorcycle patrolman called in to take our report, a very unusual action to take an officer off duty just to prepare a standard report. There were several other officers loitering around the station observing us; they could have taken the report.
Our home has been broken into at least two dozen times. After each time, we notice small items missing; hairbrushes, frequently worn clothing, personal items with DNA. Things are misplaced or moved. We also notice nicks and scratches on door frames, cabinets and furniture. We have not been moving heavy items.
This past December 2008, upon returning from a vacation, Genelle collected material off her mother’s bedroom carpeting. It appeared to be soldering droppings on the carpeting. We also discovered white paint stains on the hardwood floor entry to the bedroom. On closer inspection, it appears that part of the upper bed room door jam has been removed, re-caulked and repainted; there are nicks on the door frame.
Additionally, an electrical socket close to the bedroom stopped functioning. Upon examination, we saw that wires were cut. This was a working socket, used to power vacuums and floor fans.
Upon return from a vacation, our spare garage door opener and master house key were missing.
Photos Taken Around the Home: No matter what camera we use, we cannot get clear photos, digital or film, inside or immediately outside our home. There seems to be some interference preventing clear, sharp photos. The lighting is distorted, uneven, even though we follow all camera instructions for proper camera use. This also happens when friends use their own cameras. The photos are fuzzy, grainy: white beams, looking like laser or focused light beams (no other way to describe them in lay terms) appear in the photos.
7. Mail Monitored
In March, 2004, after the conversation with the Illinois State’s Attorneys office when Genelle stated she was going to the media, our mail began to be tampered with, opened, ripped and torn.
In April, 2004, our mail carrier left a form message, on a letter size yellow card, when he delivered mail that was on-hold while we were away. The form said:
We believe the mail carrier deliberatively left the form to let us know that someone was messing with our mail. We have shown the form to various law enforcement and others who might know what the form means; all to no avail, no one knows about this form, what it means or what the implications are.
Below is a recap of some suspicious and dangerous incidents directed at us:
8. Dangerous Travel - 2006
We have had several close calls with automobile accidents, particularly when we drive in the San Diego area. We believe there is fear of our intention to deliver a statement to Senior Deputy Calif. Attorney General Schons and the San Diego District Attorney about the cover-up and our harassment by the Orange County Sheriff and District Attorney. For a period of time, every trip involved a life threatening, dangerous, event. We believe this is a warning to stop us from seeking legal help from a government official or agency.
On the 20th anniversary of Robbin’s murder, January 18th 2006, while driving to San Diego, a man in a white truck pulled up even with our car on the passenger side and drove parallel to us; after a distance he began to dangerously and recklessly move into our lane without moving ahead of us or changing lanes legally or safely. Genelle yelled at Jack to honk the horn. Genelle said the driver was trying to push us into another lane. The dangerous driver pulled back, then smiled and saluted us and sped off. Genelle could not get his license number, he disappeared quickly.
Two days later, Jan 20th, Jack was driving to meet a business associate in San Diego and the same incident happened with a white truck on Jack’s driver side just past the San Onofre checkpoint.
On Jan 25th a small white sports car sped illegally across lanes to unsafely get in front of Jack who was traveling with a business associate on the 163 Fwy in San Diego. The car hit its brakes, started fish-tailing and slid under a big freight truck whose rear wheels went over the car’s hood and popped the car spinning back into traffic, coming to a complete stop directly in front of, and facing, Jack’s car. This created a very dangerous situation since Jack was unable to move his car and there was danger of rear end collusion. Getting out of the car was equally dangerous because cars were whizzing past in the adjacent lanes. Jack eventually got out or harm’s way and gave his business card to the truck driver and moved on to protect himself and his passenger and to get out of danger.
CHP sirens were heard almost immediately; they were already on their way as if they anticipated an accident. No insurance company called for weeks. Genelle began discussing the incident on our tapped phones. Within a day, a woman called saying she was from the insurance company representing the truck driver. Obviously the phone tap sparked a call; somebody realized a follow-up was necessary.
In 2007, while driving south through Huntington Beach on the 405, a small white truck with a Marine sticker on the back window dangerously cut in front of us, then moved to the passenger side and dropped back behind our car. Genelle looked around at the driver, he smiled and waved; his actions were similar to the Jan 18, 2006 incident described above.
We have been driving for 55 years and have never had anyone try to force us into an accident. We frequently drive to Los Angeles, Corona, Palm Springs, San Francisco, Arizona and Texas; never has anything like this occurred.
9. Private Investigators
In 2005, we called a private investigator and briefly explained our purpose. He promised to call us the next day before 10 am. Gundy unexpectedly phoned at 9:50 am, the PI never called. Gundy rarely called us. We believed the PI tipped Gundy.
We called another PI. As we began to explain the nature of the investigation he said, “I do work for the Sheriff, this call never happened” and immediately hung up.
On May 20, 2006, we met a PI who worked for a prominent lawyer. We met in the lawyer’s office. He asked if we knew of any reason we would be under investigation. We said no. He was the first to tell us that we, AND OUR SON, were under investigation. He was picking up information on his computer using sophisticated investigative software not available to the general public.
In 2007 we hired an Orange County PI at the suggestion of a top Orange County civil rights lawyer. The primary purpose was to discover what type of physical evidence the Sheriff and/or District Attorney had from the crime scene; specifically, whose DNA is at the crime scene. We gave him $5000 and the authority to act in our behalf. The PI insisted that we cooperate on an article about Robbin’s murder, investigation and prosecution that he arranged with the OC Weekly, a popular, free newspaper that frequently runs serious, in depth, investigative exposes. The PI said the purpose of the story was to create a rational for him to follow up on leads from the story.
During the initial interview, the PI told us that we and our son were under investigation (for Robbin’s murder). After payment of the $5000 and the publishing of the OC Weekly article, we never heard from the PI again.
When we met the OC Weekly reporter; we stressed to him our theory of the murder, that Gundy told us that Urdiales’ physical evidence was not at the crime scene and that Urdiales would not be tried in Orange County. The reporter passed over key information and prepared, in our opinion, an article that focused on non essential, unimportant information about us. The reporter did include Robbin’s murderer’s confession statement wherein Urdiales states several times that other people were involved – he said “we” repeatedly. In the article, Prosecutor Gundy is quoted at saying that “extraditing Urdiales was not worth the time and effort”…victims are “poor folks” with unreasonable expectations.
We think the PI worked for, or was intimidated by, Sheriff Carona. To date, he will not return phone calls or return the money because he would have to lie to us or give us an explanation he is afraid to give. We have made a complaint to the California licensing board but never received a response back.
It is apparent the PIs in Orange County do not want to antagonize the Sheriff or DA.
10. Store Security and Purchases
Starting in 2005, security bells would go off frequently when we leave stores. This is not the occasional experiences all shoppers have. We believe this is an effort to film us as thieves. For a while, any time we use a credit card, or information about us is entered into a computer, we could count on the bells going off without fail when we exited the store. This went on for about two dozen times. Genelle discussed this with Gundy. He laughed and ridiculed Genelle, saying, “That must be terrible, everywhere you go people think you are a thief.”
On Sept. 30, 2005 at Longs drug store (now CVS) in Laguna Hills, Genelle turned in a common prescription around 3:00 pm. Upon entering data into the computer, the young clerk looked at Genelle terrified and walked to the pharmacist. She returned to the counter, still looking terrified, and said it would take about 20 minutes. Genelle noticed they were not busy. Genelle returned three times to check on the status. After a while, a person the clerk was waiting for arrived, about 4:00 p.m. and took over the sale. This new person had no clue what to do and had to call still another clerk to finish the transaction.
When Genelle left the store, bells went off. A man walked up to Genelle and grabbed her package out of her hand, not saying a word. He walked to a cash register to do something with the purchase. Genelle volunteered her receipt, he took it but did not look at it, no apology. We are not thieves. The Sheriff and/or DA are interfering with our credit card purchases, somehow flagging Genelle as a shoplifter to embarrass and humiliate her.
On one occasion in 2005 or 06 at Robinsons-May in Newport Beach, after Genelle shopped for about an hour, she purchased several items for her mother with a credit card. A woman hurriedly walked in front of Genelle and her mother as they were walking to the exit. She reached into her purse and pulled out a round white object while looking back to make sure she was walking close to Genelle. Bells immediately started ringing as the woman reached the exit, with Genelle close behind . Then a man stepped forward and opened the exit door for the mysterious woman, then Genelle, not saying anything, just glaring an accusatory look at Genelle and her mother.
At a Target store in Corona, CA on Sept. 23, 2006, after making a purchase, Genelle began walking in and out of the store with the package, each time making the bells go off. She was forcing a confrontation. A uniformed man came running from the back of the store, took Genelle’s bag while continuously staring at a security camera. He examined the items in the bag, demagnetized them, then just handed the bag back to Genelle saying “OK,” then he rushed off.
Recent examples: April 22, 2008 at Office Max; April 23, 2008 at Circuit City on El Toro Road; May 23, 2009 at Rite Aid in Los Alamitos; May 13 or 14, 2009 at a CVS in Laguna Hills.
On about two dozen times we have bells going off, the guards or store personnel just yell, “that’s OK, go ahead.” We believe all these incidents are taped, then edited, trying to develop a phony pattern of shoplifting theft. The purpose, we suppose, is to discredit us if we continue to pursue our demands for answers.
For the past five years Genelle has experienced shopping interference; the sales clerks are frightened, flustered and nervous. Genelle is asked repeatedly to spell her name or verify the spelling of her name. We believe that when clerk’s access computer information, using Genelle’s name or credit card, negative information appears to warn that Genelle is a dangerous person. The response of the clerks is not normal. Genelle has shopped for 55 yrs and has never experienced clerk reaction as described.
11. Suspicious Vehicles – Tracking Our Movements
We have been followed and tracked so often that Genelle recognizes some of the people.
On February 17, 2006, a large, black unmarked car parked behind Genelle while she was waiting for her mother. Genelle thought the driver’s behavior odd; he just sat in the car.
She got out of her car and took a photo of the black car with her cell phone. A DARE sticker was on the bumper. She then went to the driver’s side to see if she recognized the driver but he would not allow her to see his face. The license plate was 5KUV977.
On Feb 18, 2006, while at Robbin’s bench at main beach in Laguna Beach, several unknown people were taking our photo. While Jack went to get coffee, Genelle started walking the dog. She noticed a man across the street filming her. Genelle ran across the street to confront the man and get his license number. He quickly popped the trunk, threw his camera in, and took off. Genelle got his license number (personal plate – FILMO.)
On Feb 20, 2006, Genelle was following Jack who was driving a rental. A big, black car with two men got between us. Genelle pulled up beside them and looked at the
passenger, a uniformed officer with a large object in his lap that she believes is a tracker
device. He saw Genelle look at him, they then dropped back in traffic. We believe the rental car was tagged for tracking. The car was in our driveway for several days and could easily be tampered with.
With few exceptions, appointments Genelle makes with doctors, hairdressers, and others are cancelled or postponed by them.
Genelle’s 95 year old mother, Mildred, lived with us for six years. Genelle believes her mother’s doctors are told to look for elder abuse. Since Mildred has been with Genelle her health has improved considerably. She is a wonderful sweet woman. Genelle would never do anything to hurt her.
13. Neighbor Cooperation With The Harassment
We had our home checked out by a highly rated security company; they were looking for bugs, phone taps, and internet attack. We were told that neighbors were accessing our computer. They advised us to not talk openly in a several rooms. They advised us to change phones.
Our suspicion of a couple of neighbors is confirmed because of their dramatically changed behavior and attitude toward us. They are either cooperating for monetary or legal favors, or, they believe derogatory things about us told to them by the Sheriff or DA’s agents (just flash a badge and people will do whatever told to do whether they believe it or not.) We have been accused of everything from wanting revenge, monetary gain, notoriety and more. If we wanted all this, why would we wait 23 years? We simply want justice and the truth for Robbin, the families of four other young California women and ourselves. We want the cover-up and harassment stopped now!
Our neighborhood is heavily wooded with thick trees and large plants. We have an upstairs office with double sets of roll out windows overlooking the front street. The windows are shielded by a large coral tree and a bougainvillea vine. Our neighbor catty-corner across the street cut down all trees and shrubbery in his back yard. This was very unusual, his home was in a heavily wooded lot with extensive trees, plants and vines - and secure from prying eyes. Now the neighbor’s house was exposed. Our next door neighbor butchered our coral tree and vine overhanging his side of the property fence, creating a hole, in such a way that the catty-corner neighbor across the street has a clear view of our office and the front of our home. When the trees and shrubbery begin to grow back, the cutting and trimming occur again. This activity allows the catty-corner neighbor to monitor our movement and conversations and overhear when we are working or talking in the office or in the master bedroom. When we returned from a vacation recently, we noticed even more butchering on our coral tree, a major limb had been sawed off thus allowing a better surveillance by the neighbor into our home.
Trimming trees and shrubbery is not usual. In our neighborhood it is rarely done. The neighbors like the ambiance. To chop down, butcher, the greenery, is highly unusual and suspect.
When the security investigators, former FBI and police experts that we hired, examined the office, one stared and pointed directly at the catty-corner house. He whispered, “don’t talk in this room.”
One neighbor family was in a custody battle with a deputy sheriff over a grandchild. The neighbor is a music teacher and was the only family member with a job. Her husband had not found steady work for about 10 years. The legal battle was very costly for them, the neighbor complained about it frequently. Shortly after the entrapment incident described below, we began to suspect that the neighbor was spying upon us. We noticed that the neighbor retired, her husband and adult daughter found steady work at good paying jobs despite their drug histories and occasional incarceration. They hired a housekeeper two times a week and a gardener. Eventually the neighbor told Genelle the deputy sheriff isn’t going to fight her over her granddaughter’s custody anymore. Genelle said, ‘you’re talking to him again?” The neighbor was shocked and surprised at Genelle’s reaction because she realized she misspoke and quickly changed the subject.
A neighbor living directly across the street took in a boy friend-boarder sometime in 2006. He permanently parked two old vehicles in her driveway, a panel truck and a large van, both had sealed windows preventing observing the inside of either auto. During this time, the neighbor became fearful, reclusive and nervous around us. When we were having our home checked by a security company, the former FBI expert pointed toward the house and trucks and said that 7-9 neighbors were attempting, or had hacked, our computers. Jack commented on the vehicles, that he suspected surveillance. The security operatives agreed that was highly probable. The vehicles were finally moved in February 2009.
1st Instance: June 8, 2006
A neighbor asked Genelle to travel to Los Angeles with her to visit her old friend, see the neighborhood where she once lived and to go to lunch at a favorite place of hers. The neighbor insisted on a specific date and that they had to leave early, 9:00 am, and get home by 3:00 pm.
They arrived at the home of the friend before 11:00 AM and leisurely stayed until the friend received a phone call, about 1:00 pm. Prior to the phone call, a helicopter hovered over the friend’s home. We all bolted the house after the call. A suspicious sequence of events. While driving, the neighbor yells out that she needed some marijuana, she says she was in “so much pain” and cannot find a doctor to give her a prescription. The friend replied that she would call her son, he could get some for her. Genelle was mortified about this.
After several phone calls and deciding on different meeting places, the friend’s son arranged a meeting with a guy named “Dave” who came up to the car carrying a surf board; Dave said he would not attend the purchase but he arranged for a friend of his, who just pulled up, to make the purchase. Our neighbor, who did not know Dave’s friend, announced she was going with him to the surprise of Genelle and the friend. Genelle was introduced as “the celebrity.” Genelle now believes her “title” was a signal to all that Genelle was the target of some scheme to involve her, implicate her in a marijuana purchase.
The friend drove to a Whole Foods parking lot in West Hollywood. Genelle was hungry so she immediately got out of the car, went into the store and bought items to eat, talked to a clerk, and then checked out. The store was not busy, Genelle seemed to be the only one in the store. When she walked outside police were all over the parking lot of the small strip mall conducting a mock traffic problem. Our neighbor was sitting at a table with her head down looking defeated.
Dave’s friend said he was buying the marijuana at a doctor’s office across the street from Whole Foods. Genelle noticed a plastic sign advertising a doctor’s office hung on a building wall. A month or two later, Genelle wanted to see if the doctor’s sign was still on the wall. It was not.
They did not get home until 8:00 pm, not the 3:00 pm as originally planned. A couple of nights later while watching NBC late night news it was announced that West Hollywood Sheriff’s Department would no longer go after people with small amounts of marijuana but would use their time and money for violent and serious crime. That confirmed Genelle’s suspicions that the whole trip and marijuana purchase was a trap, a frame up, to implicate Genelle in some sort of illegal activity and thus besmirch her character and integrity.
A couple of weeks later at a neighbor party, the neighbor asked Genelle if she “remembered our little escapade?” Genelle said, “yes, what was that all about?” She said the incident was a “scam”.
2nd Instance: July or August, 2006
Some time later the same neighbor asked Genelle to go shopping and lunch. Genelle thought the neighbor might talk to her about the entrapment scheme, so she agreed. During shopping, the neighbor kept postponing lunch, then, all of a sudden, big rush, it was time for lunch. They went to the neighbor’s favorite place at South Coast Plaza. It is usually crowded, with a sitting line, but only a few people were there. The neighbor wanted a specific table next to a corner table occupied by a man reading a newspaper. They sat right next to him even though the place was almost empty. This man kept fidgeting with something in his left front pants pocket; it appeared he was trying to turn something on. Genelle stared at him but he kept doing it. When it was time to go he took a recorder out of his pocket and slammed it on the table. While Genelle watched his bizarre behavior, the neighbor started complaining to Genelle about the price of the lunch and the amount of the tip in an attempt to distract her. Genelle told her that she thought we had put out a sufficient amount. Genelle believes they wanted to get her voice on tape. That was the last time Genelle went anywhere with the neighbor, she was convinced she was spying on her and cooperating with law enforcement to frame her, compromise her in some way.
To sum up, the family was in a precarious financial position. After the cooperation began with the Sheriff and/or DA, the family lifestyle improved dramatically. The daughter’s law problems and custody battles ended and jobs were secured for the family.
In 2008, the neighbor became very frightened about the entrapment scheme and sent a note to Genelle to please forgive her for the “little escapade.” She left messages on the phone answering machine and pushed a note through the front door mail slot. The neighbor knows that trying to entrap Genelle was wrong.
15. Bank of America Safe Deposit Box – January 18-22, 2006
Our B of A branch installed an electronic hand print identifier for customer self-entry to the safe deposit room. We set ourselves up in the system. A couple of months later, January 2008, we were denied access for approximately a week; our hand prints did not respond. Bank employees exclaimed that, “this has never happened before,” and had no explanation.
We complained to the branch manager. Again, no answer. We watched as other customers used the hand print identifier without problem.
We believe we were denied access to prevent us discovering that our safe deposit box was tampered with and its contents examined. The bee-bee item described in
point 1. Attacks on Personal Health above was the only item missing that we know about.
16. Arial Surveillance
On April 9, 2006, after reading a very negative article on Sheriff Carona, we contacted the free lance reporter who prepared the article. He responded and said he remembered Robbin’s murder. When we tried to contact him again to see if he would be interested in helping us, our computer began to act erratically; it would not respond to commands, the cursor would not allow us to form text or send a message. We believe our computer was interfered with to prevent contact. We could never again connect with this reporter.
That afternoon we went to the Montage Hotel in Laguna Beach to walk the dog. A helicopter flew over, lower than normal or usual elevation. We noticed that the rear portion of the shell body had been removed. The chopper flew off. A few minutes later, Genelle hear a loud noise overhead, looked up and saw another helicopter that hovered directly over us a few minutes. The identification markings on the helicopter said Orange County Sheriff. We believe the message, the threat, to us was: who do you think you are, how dare you to challenge the Sheriff’s office.
On Robbin’s birthday, December 6, 2006, at Crescent Bay Park in north Laguna Beach, while we were walking the dog, a man in a truck, wearing an orange vest or jacket, appeared to be reading something. He got out of the truck, California 7X9784, and stood in an open area. Almost immediately, a helicopter hovered extremely low over us.
Over the last few years, we have had helicopters frequently hover over our home or while we are away from home, during the night or day. Of particular interest, one recurring helicopter has the markings of a huge waving American flag entirely covering the body of the ship.
July 22, 2009, while Genelle was driving north from Laguna Beach in the Newport Coast area, a black helicopter swooped down in front of her, so close she could see the people inside. This was unusual, the helicopters usually fly parallel to her, going some distance in front of her then making a U-turn and coming back at her.
We realize this all this helicopter seems bizarre, we envision readers dismissing this as an attack of the “black helicopter” syndrome. It would be unusual if it happened occasionally, not all the time, sometimes daily. It is getting commonplace and tiring.
17. Collecting DNA
In 2007, Gundy told a reporter that the DNA collected at the crime scene had not been tested yet. In 2003, during their very first phone conversation, Gundy told us the physical evidence at the crime scene was not Urdiales’. He also said that blood evidence had not been tested, that actual testing occurred closer to the trial. Based on Gundy’s statements, how would he know if Urdiales physical evidence was, or was not, at the crime scene?
Statements by detectives Moreno and Blackburn and Gundy are confusing: the detectives told us that “all the different blood at the crime scene will be tested,” and that we would be given the results. We never heard from them again. We are just being out and out lied to about blood evidence.
Captain Christine Murray said she would check into the various stories told us about blood and DNA; we never heard back from her because there is nothing she can report without exposing the cover-up. We believe the District Attorney knows exactly whose blood is at the scene; if it is not Urdiales’, then tell us whose blood was recovered? Could it be the blood of the student suspect that people saw leave the concert with Robbin, the last person seen with Robbin? A suspect who had a $10,000 motive and personal hatred toward Robbin. A suspect who disappeared for several days after the murder and who disposed of her car and probably her clothes. A suspect who was hysterical at Robbin’s memorial service, with rough, red hands as if soaked in detergent and cleaning materials.
When the harassment began we noticed an effort to collect our DNA. Detailed above are examples: personal items taken during home break-ins such as hair and tooth brushes and frequently worn clothing; unnecessary flossing by dentists, excessive blood spill, several vials collected, when Genelle was giving a blood sample, to name a few. The purpose of collecting our DNA is to frame us, if necessary, to protect the cover-up. If the blood at the crime scene has not been tested – purposefully not tested – then it would be easy to place our blood, hair and other DNA into the evidence.
We have thought long and hard before writing this document. It is twenty-three years since Robbin’s murder and we have had ample time to think and reflect on suspects, motives, reasons and evidence. Our friends, family and associates are supportive but wish our nightmare will end.
We have been advised to just give it up, let it go, but we can not until the complete truth is known.
It is just not acceptable for us to ignore and succumb to all the harassment with our mail, our phone, our home, our shopping, our neighbors, our doctors, and our privacy. We cannot meekly accept the abuse and attempts to frighten us, to just accept the Sheriff and District Attorney’s harassment.
We are willing to take lie detector or other truth detection to prove we stand by what we are claiming and are not lying.
The bio-implant claims can all be solved in a week by examination scans or X-rays by reputable doctor who are unafraid, or cooperate with, Orange County law enforcement.
We are angry and we want the harassment to stop, now!!
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON HARASSMENT
- When we first met Sheriff Carona, Jack asked if he knew Detective Stephany, the lead investigator. Carona smirked that “Mike is one of my best friends, I just promoted him.” We instantly knew we were not going to get cooperation from Carona or his department – we could expect resistance and antagonism.
- From the beginning of the investigation, the Sheriff’s Office was secretive and uncooperative, and eventually abusive. They made it clear through their actions and comments – their lack of enthusiasm to solve the murder – that Robbin’s murder would not be solved, it would be designated a cold case, filed and forgotten.
Over the years since the consolidation of charges, Gundy has said a variety of contradictory comments about extradition. He told us that the Governor signed the extradition and Urdiales would be in Orange County any day now; he told the LA Times that Urdiales would be extradited in three years; a decision was made to not extradite for 10-12 years while waiting for Urdiales to finish his appeal process; Gundy said in print that Urdiales extradition “was not worth the effort:”
- For six years, since 1997 until 2003, when the then-Sheriff Brad Gates came to our home to tell us the murder had been solved we believed that justice would finally come for Robbin. Gates said, “We filed first, we get him first.” We expected that Urdiales’ extradition would be forthcoming as soon as possible, that the trial would be swift and thorough and that all the facts and the truth surrounding Robbin’s murder would be made known. We believed Gundy’s assurances to us about a speedy extradition; speedy trial and that Urdiales would receive his punishment in California and not be returned to Illinois. Gundy repeated his speedy extradition comments in an LA Times article. We naively believed that law enforcement was on the side of victims, justice and truth. We relied on the District Attorney’s office to prosecute successfully, to do their job. What a disappointment!
- To us it became apparent, Orange County had no intention of trying Urdiales, at least not until far in the future, if ever. The incompetent investigation, the extradition lies – the extradition complacency, the purposeful confusion about physical evidence, the ignoring of a key word – “we” – in Urdiales confession, the ignoring of evidence and leads.
All this supports the cover-up.